{"id":214,"date":"2004-06-25T12:59:01","date_gmt":"2004-06-25T12:59:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/northgare.net\/blah\/?p=214"},"modified":"2011-08-06T00:52:54","modified_gmt":"2011-08-06T07:52:54","slug":"down_the_rabbit","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/northgare.net\/blog\/2004\/06\/down_the_rabbit\/","title":{"rendered":"Down the rabbit hole again"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s finally more from the <a href=\"http:\/\/northgare.net\/blog\/2004\/05\/artificial_inte\/\">Jim Wightman story<\/a>, and it&#8217;s more of the bizarre same. Wightman responds to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/news\/news.jsp?id=ns99996022\">a new piece in New Scientist<\/a>, which says, inter alia:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nWhile analysing the transcripts of their conversations, both Webb and Pryke noticed similarities with a program, called Alice, that is free to download over the internet. Alice is a previous winner of the Loebner Prize, which is awarded to machines that do good conversational impressions of humans.<\/p>\n<p>Not only were many of the nanniebot&#8217;s responses identical to Alice&#8217;s but Wightman&#8217;s software appeared to make the same grammatical errors. Wightman&#8217;s explanation for this was that he had been forced to &#8220;grab and generate as much knowledge&#8221; as possible when he realised that he was not going to be able to demonstrate his AI database. This included borrowing parts of the knowledge bases from Alice and other programs.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In other words &#8211; though NS is too polite to say this &#8211; when forced, finally, to demonstrate <em>something<\/em> under anything approaching controlled conditions, he was forced to plagiarise a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alicebot.org\/\">freely available chat-bot<\/a>, present it as his own, and then bluster about its shortcomings. Plus \u00e7a bloody change. Though this is, at least, something closer to the article that NS <em>should<\/em> have written when first presented with Wightman&#8217;s claims.<\/p>\n<p>They did miss a very useful, pragmatic first step in their little investigation, which is something <a href=\"http:\/\/www.randi.org\">James Randi<\/a> typically employs as a first-cut bullshit detector. The step is to have anyone making great claims present their evidence for those claims <em>on their own terms first<\/em>, before bringing any scientific technique like double-blindness to bear. Partly it&#8217;s just an efficiency: if the claims don&#8217;t appear to be backed up even if the claimant has complete control of the environment, then it&#8217;s pointless going any further. But it&#8217;s also a bit of typical Randi wiliness. Watching someone (for example) do a bit of ostensibly-psychokinetic spoon-bending can give an observer &#8211; like an experienced magician, for example &#8211; plenty of insight into the tricks involved, and then inform any subsequent more rigorous trials.<\/p>\n<p>This story still has nothing to do AI, whatever Wightman actually has, if anything. It&#8217;s a story about one man&#8217;s desire for attention (in which case it&#8217;s a wonder he doesn&#8217;t just write a blog, like the rest of us &#8211; aha, ahahahahaha) and, maybe, acceptance by a technical and scientific community. It&#8217;s a story of internet-enabled kookiness. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chatnannies.com\">Wightman&#8217;s response to the new NS piece<\/a> is a study in self-delusion:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nThe New Scientist and anyone else requiring a more complete proof is welcome at anytime!\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The keyword here is &#8216;more&#8217;, because no proof so far has been provided. Not a thing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s finally more from the Jim Wightman story, and it&#8217;s more of the bizarre same. Wightman responds to a new piece in New Scientist, which says, inter alia: While analysing the transcripts of their conversations, both Webb and Pryke noticed similarities with a program, called Alice, that is free to download over the internet. Alice &#8230; <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-214","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/northgare.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/214","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/northgare.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/northgare.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/northgare.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/northgare.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=214"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/northgare.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/214\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":421,"href":"http:\/\/northgare.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/214\/revisions\/421"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/northgare.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=214"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/northgare.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=214"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/northgare.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=214"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}